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Free or reduced tertiary education

Free or reduced tertiary education

Free education promotes a greater opportunity for equality. Education should be a right, not a privilege, and we shouldn't make students to enter the workforce fighting to pay off large debts.

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    • Tim O'Donnell
      tagged this with important 2016-11-29 21:27:29 +1300
    • duncan cairncross
      commented 2016-11-27 15:44:25 +1300
      This is very important – old fogeys like me grew up with free university education and state provided subsistence grants
      We should definitely go back to that
    • duncan cairncross
      tagged this with essential 2016-11-27 15:44:25 +1300
    • James Maclaurin
      commented 2016-11-27 09:37:01 +1300
      The problem at the moment is not that tertiary education is too expensive. Graduates earn many hundreds of thousands of dollars more over their lifetimes than non-grads so they can afford to pay off student loans for NZ’s relatively modest tertiary fees. The problem is that the current student loans scheme doesn’t allow students to borrow enough to study + eat + pay the rent. Of course if NZ had a Universal Basic Income (as it should), there would be less of a need for loans. But in the interim, we should allow students to borrow enough to study and live.
    • David ten Have
      tagged this with essential 2016-11-26 05:12:27 +1300
    • Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
      commented 2016-11-25 22:01:57 +1300
      Investing in the education of our youth is investing in our future as a country. If you can’t stand free, perhaps forgive student debts at a yearly ratio for each year spent in NZ following graduation. Incentivize learning and incentivize applying that learning in NZ. This needs exploring even if there isn’t a fully formed policy straight off the bat.
    • Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
      tagged this with interesting 2016-11-25 22:01:56 +1300
    • Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
      tagged this with important 2016-11-25 22:01:55 +1300
    • Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
      tagged this with essential 2016-11-25 22:01:54 +1300
    • Tim O'Donnell
      commented 2016-11-25 16:41:29 +1300
      Fix the tax system & this should happen. But you can’t have an open cheque book available for this. You can’t have people being professional students, there have to be limits. The limits are the real discussion point. I believe education should be a right because it helps all of New Zealand in the end. Education isn’t for everyone but it should be an option.
    • James Reardon
      commented 2016-11-25 15:25:44 +1300
      I certainly like the concept of ‘free education’ and as an ex-Brit in my early forties I was lucky enough to receive a state funded education all the way to a PhD that was fully funded by the state, but that was before the commercialisation of education. I also had to sit exams to apply for scholarships, which had I failed would have meant no university for me. I was one of 25 zoology students entering my degree at the university of Wales. By the time I was demonstrating as a post-doc the intake class was more than 100. Employment for zoologists had not grown four-fold in the intervening yrs.

      So I would suggest that one possible solution would be to make available proportional scholarships that match the demand for those skills in NZ. Those less able students or those rich enough not to worry can continue to pay their way if they choose but we ensure a meritocratic shot at education for those that crave and deserve it. there is also a need to boost the value of non-academic vocational training.
    • James Reardon
      tagged this with important 2016-11-25 15:25:43 +1300
    • Nathan Rattray
      commented 2016-11-25 15:15:35 +1300
      I think making it ‘free’ helps to create a culture of entitlement.
    • Peter Jamieson
      tagged this with interesting 2016-11-25 14:51:28 +1300
    • Bart Brichau
      commented 2016-11-25 14:47:04 +1300
      I believe the German model is much better: value trades/non-tertiary education as much as university degrees.
    • Bart Brichau
      tagged this with important 2016-11-25 14:47:03 +1300
    • Nathan Rattray
      commented 2016-11-25 14:26:43 +1300
      I’m not so sure ‘free’ tertiary education is a right. I believe it needs to be a little more affordable. Fee increases should be capped and even reduced in some cases. Certain courses could be subsidised further for areas of the workforce that require more people, but this should have a time-based cap so as not to unbalance the workforce and create mass unemployment a few years down the track.
    • Nathan Rattray
      tagged this with dislike 2016-11-25 14:26:43 +1300
    • Nathan Rattray
      tagged this with low priority 2016-11-25 14:26:43 +1300
    • Duncan Stuart
      commented 2016-11-25 14:07:56 +1300
      Better information around all all tertiary providers should be a priority. Many school leavers seem to think that uni is the only option which leads to skills shortages in some areas and the clichéd example of too many Law grads
    • Duncan Stuart
      tagged this with important 2016-11-25 14:07:56 +1300
    • Benjamin Johnstone
      published this page in Suggestions 2016-11-25 12:56:48 +1300