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JAFA Tax

JAFA Tax

I have suggested this before in a tongue in cheek manner but we should have some serious discussion on this subject Auckland has about one third of the total population of this country I believe that is too large a percentage and that having that large a percentage will badly distort the development of the rest of the country that way that London has damaged the UK This leads to What is the optimum size for a city? Large enough that it can afford all of the benefits of city life, the concentration of market and people that drives industry Not so large that the costs and inconvenience of moving inside it become too large a negative The way I see it the advantages of scale will follow a curve of diminishing improvement – increasing size may continue to offer advantages but they will become less as the city grows The disadvantages of scale will follow a different type of curve – getting steadily greater as the city grows The disadvantages of size will be made worse if the city is in an area with limited growth capacity due to the local topography– like Dunedin as opposed to Chrischurch Having decided on an optimum size we should use a taxation/subsidy regime to reduce the growth pressure on cities (Auckland) above that size and to transfer that growth to cities that are below the optimum size

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    • Philip Wilkinson
      commented 2016-12-07 12:54:58 +1300
      Its called migration… an area becomes uneconomic for a population and so the population moves…. been happening for centuries!
    • Philip Wilkinson
      commented 2016-12-07 12:54:02 +1300
      So I believe that you don’t need a JAFFA tax
      The housing “Crisis” is doing this for us… as it becomes too expensive in Auckland people are moving out to other regions. What we should not try and do is stop the current housing crisis as this will only encourage more people to live in the city.
    • Philip Wilkinson
      tagged this with low priority 2016-12-07 12:54:02 +1300
    • Ben Mayson
      commented 2016-12-04 02:28:31 +1300
      Agglomeration is efficient. The issue is woeful investment in infrastructure to support. We should all be in favour of a well run Auckland, which, in global terms is still a very small city…
    • Ben Mayson
      tagged this with dislike 2016-12-04 02:28:30 +1300
    • Chelsea Finnie
      commented 2016-12-03 22:34:29 +1300
      Perhaps a better idea would be to provide incentives to work in other regions, such as subsidies for IT businesses and infrastructure.
    • Chelsea Finnie
      tagged this with interesting 2016-12-03 22:34:28 +1300
    • duncan cairncross
      commented 2016-12-03 22:32:08 +1300
      Hi Alan
      Your increasing rates are part of the cost of the size of Auckland – and are not high enough – or more likely are not causing “pain” to the right people in the right way or else we would not have the silly situation where most new immigrants seem to be so puffed out by their journey that they stop in Auckland!

      Don’t know about the Northern offshore Island but here on the Mainland most places are trying to get more people to settle
    • Alan Barraclough
      commented 2016-12-03 20:57:42 +1300
      Im just thinking a bit more clearly.. This JAFA tax already exists.. in the form of ever increasing rates from Len Brown… 3K each year.. .. and its working with upper north island property now skyrocketing. I think possibly your suggestion is more about becareful what you wish for.. :-)
    • Alan Barraclough
      tagged this with interesting 2016-12-03 20:57:42 +1300
    • Alan Barraclough
      commented 2016-12-03 20:50:56 +1300
      I stand to be corrected.. but in many localities their is a focus on keeping others out. There a solution. cut migration. This is an unsustainable economic model. People building houses and infrastructure for new arrivals who build more infrastructure for an exponential curve of arrivals.. its clearly a ponzi scheme .. the music will stop anyway.. and it will all end in tears.. floods of tears..
    • duncan cairncross
      commented 2016-12-03 20:35:21 +1300
      Hi Alan
      Do they?
      This one here (Gore) certainly does not
    • Alan Barraclough
      commented 2016-12-03 20:22:16 +1300
      I agree with the auckland max size concept. But ad an aucklandet i want to move out of aucklamd but the planning regulations of the other country local councils prevent us moving out. The local governments of other local jusristrictions prevent small lots and subdivision under 10 ha etc . So its the other local givernments keeping us here
    • duncan cairncross
      published this page in Suggestions 2016-12-03 19:37:24 +1300